Should preachers be concerned about using good rhetoric, or did Paul completely dismiss any effort in using words of eloquence? Robert Kinney, David Helm and Jeremy Meeks weigh in on the use of rhetoric on 9 Marks podcast Preachers Talk. This is a very helpful discussion that provides a caution in the use of rhetoric, but demonstrates the proper need and use of good rhetoric for the preacher, teacher and evangelist.
Jonathan Leeman at 9 Marks interviews Mark Vroegop on the subject of lament. Mark recently published a book on lament called Dark Clouds Deep Mercy.
Crawford Loritts says in an endorsement, “Mark Vroegop reminds us that grief and sorrow are not the denial of God’s presence or a lack of faith in God’s sovereign care. God calls us to lament, to give expression to our pain and sorrow, which in turn leads to authentic hope, healing, and health. Vroegop shepherds our hearts and shows us the path to discovering ‘deep mercy in dark clouds.’ This book is a hope-filled treasure!”
In this 9 Marks podcast Jonathan and Mark talk about the necessity of lament, it’s healthy place in the Christian Life, and provide some careful marks that distinguish godly lament from complaining at God.
Audio for the 9 Marks 2017 First Five Years Conference is available online.
From the website:
First Five Years is a 9Marks Conference meant to encourage and instruct new pastors.
If you’re new in your ministry—perhaps in the first years of a church plant, or beginning a pastorate in a new place, or still preparing for ministry in seminary—then this conference is for you. We would also love for seasoned pastors who devote themselves to training men for ministry to attend.
With brothers from around the country and beyond, 9Marks intends for First Five Years to provide practical counsel from God’s Word and to facilitate fellowship between new pastors.